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How do you define talent?

Earlier this week, I posted an outlook on Michigan for Football Preview Month-ish, in which I said something that at the time I felt was rather innoccuous: 

"The bottom line is that UConn is the more talented team [than Michigan]."

That seemed to make sense to me. UConn, though not ranked, received a fair amount of votes in the preseason coaches' poll while Michigan received none. Most of the national rankings that have been published have UConn above Michigan. Finally UConn is chock full of upperclassmen and is returning 16 starters from an 8-5 squad that A) was better than its record and B) looked very impressive down the stretch. Meanwhile Michigan has a young squad that is bringing back 15 players from a team that lost seven of its last eight. 

However, my comments did not go unnoticed. Over a MGoBlog, commenters immediately latched onto the talent remark. SBNation's Michigan blog, Maize N Brew picked up on it as well. Their argument is that talent is not necessarily an indicator of performance, and they offer each school's recruiting profile (Michigan's is clearly superior) as evidence. 

Personally, I tend to take the opposite view in what amounts to a chicken vs. egg argument, because I think that performance is an indicator of talent. At its core, this is basically just a semantic argument based around wether you want to define talent as capacity for success or pure natural ability (in this case what rivals said your ability was when you were a senior in high school). However, I think its an interesting argument, especially since UConn has to fight hard for every ounce of national respect it can get. 

Both Meacham and I jumped in the discussion in Maize N Brew's comments, and I think both sides make some good points, and it is definitely worth a read. I'm interested to hear the take of some of you though, so feel free to chime in in the comments here as well.

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The whole thing seems to be a bit silly

Michigan has more raw talent, it seems, based on the caliber of athletes they recruit. UConn has more developed talent and, arguably, the better team, because we won more games. Which, if we’re looking at the big picture, is more important, no?

Like you said, seems more semantics than anything, as “talent” is quite vague and can be interpreted several ways.

by UConnBlog Justin on Aug 14, 2010 5:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Michigan has Greggers at DC

AND LBers coach. GRob trumps talent every time. This explains the comment made by Maize n Brew’s about star-laden but underperforming LBers. Based on this fact, and this fact alone I would give UConn the advantage. Although I generally dislike your sporting teams I will be rooting for UConn to represent the Big East and defeat Michigan, by putting up lots of points on that deluded windbag and his douchebag head coach.

We need more toilet paper, I'm taking my talents to South Beach.

by bigbluethruandthru on Aug 15, 2010 10:04 AM EDT reply actions  

i find it quite laughable

that a large basis of their opinions come from silly high school rivals rankings.

donald brown – 2 star recruit…1st round draft pick
darius butler – NR…2nd rounder
william beatty – NR…2nd rounder
cody brown – 2 stars…2nd rounder

"...Don't talk black to me. How do you even talk black? End words with izzle..." Modern Family

by kemba walker is my hero... on Aug 15, 2010 3:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Well ...

There are obvious flaws to the whole high school ranking thing, but for the most part, they hold up. I mean, the fact that the five-star recruits that formed, say, USC’s title teams (insert lame cheating joke) are the same guys who are now pretty decent pros (insert Matt Leinart joke) isn’t exactly a coincidence.

by UConnBlog Justin on Aug 15, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

sure, the stars are easy to find

but thats not the task at hand… comparing a starting roster to anothers using those rankings is though. not that i have a better method, just finding fault in theirs

"...Don't talk black to me. How do you even talk black? End words with izzle..." Modern Family

by kemba walker is my hero... on Aug 16, 2010 9:58 AM EDT reply actions  

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